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- Hardware/Software/Management integration Mar 2009
- A Basis Weight document July 2009
- The Spirit Lives On Sept 2009
Life and Times of Measurex
Late of Cupertino, California
Once the Big Frog in the small pond of Paper (and other sheet products) Process Control!
The goal of this page is to be a start for *someone else* to build an effective history, with stories and people, of that up-and-coming and highly admired Measurex Corporation of yesteryear. ("We" were right up there in local status with Hp - great management and a great place to work.) This is a story that requires inputs from many people. No one sees the total picture.
Not even Big Dave, who did indeed "walk the talk"! Many ex-Measurex people use this e-mail list service.
Please excuse this "bottom up" approach, that is my view point ;-))Most company histories are written from a press release and/or management view. I am pleading "equal time" ;-))
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This is Dave Bossen at a reunion of ex-Measurex folks at the Duke of Edinburgh - Cupertino January 7, 2006, almost 40 years after he started Measurex. There is a rumor that he still plays a good game of golf. Good straight drives, ... when pressed for a weakness, the informant said that his chip shot game could improve ;-)) About 50 of us ex-Measurex folks had a good time telling of the past and what we are doing now :-)) (Update - Photo of Big Dave at Jan 2007 Reunion courtesy Jeanne Whitmer) Some Proposed Sections:
- Two eager beavers, Dave and Dodie Bossen, in Columbus, Ohio
- Dave was sales manager at Industrial Nucleonics, now part of ABB.
- Figured that the coming low cost digital computers would supercede IN's analog approach
- The young eager beavers get restless, and head West. (1969)
- *Digital* is the word! - Dave's new company was "Measurex", and Dodie was Personnel Manager.
- e-mail from Chere Nijim about working for Dodie.
- I presume Dave and Dodie got "Venture Capital". "Pitch" Johnson seems to have been involved, See April 27, 2005 lecture. Prospectus? who? how much? terms? IPO? Annual Reports? stock history?
- Industrial Nucleonics wanted to stay analog, and did until kicked (hard) by Dave's new company!!
- Measurex early days in the low rent district - (Matthew Street, Santa Clara, 95050 )
Jan Thompson - janthompson aty mail dotty com - sent - They started in a garage setup at 330 Matthew Street in Santa Clara (on the perimeter of San Jose airport), later used by StorMedia (a ridgid disk maker). Later on Measurex moved to the Cupertino location when they bought the cannery property in Monta Vista.
I was a field engineer in the Midwest for a few years, then came to Cupertino as an instructor, then worked the R&D lab, then was "Special Products" coordinator (Where we sold something we didn't make) and I worked with a lot of VERY good folks to make that sale happen.
I certainly recognize your name, but can't attach it to a face {I apologize, since I know I have worked with you in the past}.
Jan Thompson
Employee #330- Harold Welch got the picture (below) "from John Swan who works for Honeywell-Measurex as a trainer here in the Atlanta area. He said that the picture originated from Terry Kerr, an ex Measurex field guy. Also, while it looks like it could be system 1, I am not sure. The scanner is very short which was the case for system 1 at Simpson Lee in Ripon CA." Folks think that is Jerry Patel behind the scanner heads.
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Annotations, as heard by Ed Thelen from Harold Welch and George Wells, at the very noisy 2009 reunion. Additions/corrections solicited.
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AnnotatedDisplayControl- Use Hp 2116 computers to gain face? They were indeed tough and reliable, and the vendor stayed in business :-))
- Ray Winskus says that the Hp 2116 was one of the few mini-computers that had a floating point option - very useful in gauging and control.
- First system working! (Results Guarantee?) (Ripon, Ca ?)
Hp2100 system
Computers like this controlled the scanning, sensing, display, report generation, and process control during the 1970s and 1980s. The Bossens hired Gene Stinson from Hp. Gene apparently had been in on the design of the Hp 2116 - Measurex turned out to be Hp's biggest customer for Hp 2116s and 2100s. - This is a non-Mx Hp 2100 system - the successor to the Hp2116. Notice the paper tape reader and paper tape punch ;-)) Mx did not use disks at sites. Photo courtesy Computer History Museum. The Computer History Museum does not have an Hp 2116 - and would like one. If you know of one, please e-mail Dag Spicer of the museum, or me.
- One day a an Hp 2100 computer arrived with a bronze/gold brushed anodized front panel rather than the usual tanish painted front panel. This was the 4,000th Hp2100 Hp manufactured, and there was a bit of splash made about it ;-))
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This is a picture of a scanner after Measurex was purchased by Honeywell. The Scan Heads go back and forth across the paper as a pair measuring "slices" (say 2 inches wide) of the sheet. If the customer has suitable equipment, Measurex could control each say 2 inch slice to proper characteristics :-)) Gauges included Moisture, Fiber, (Moisture vs fiber gave Basis Weight), Color, Thickness. A scanner was about 7 feet tall and up to 30 feet wide depending on customer equipment width. - Building a new building in the "High Rent" district - Cupertino
- 1 Imperial Way? - Lots of room to grow.
- Like where did the money come from?
- I joined in 1972
- - Some early employees leave - saying the company is "too big" (maybe 200 employees) - John Higam?
- I hear interesting things about Measurex, apply several times - no response -
- Hear that using a particular head hunting agency is a good idea -
- Head hunting agency gets me an interview, and preps me on the "Measurex Test" :-))
- Dodie Bossen had a Ph.D. in Psychology and ran the personnel department
- People could introduce them as "Dr. and Mr. Bossen" ;-))
- - I meet Dodie - interesting lady! Can really turn on the charm !!
- (Dodie did get a good group of people for Mx - not everyone approved of her methods)
- Good job offer, I join ;-))
- I liked their style - termination was "Two weeks notice at the will of either party"
- Nice simple and direct - no pages of weasel words -
- After new employee introduction to company policies and radiation safety, I was pointed in the direction of software engineering. I didn't even know where my office was to be. My new boss (?Dave Stevenson?) was out of town - some place called Valliant, Oklahoma. Most people "in the know" seemed to be at Valliant, Oklahoma :-((
Just finding where to sit took half a day - Talk about new recruit - but without a drill sergeant yelling at him.
The first week was insane - here I am, highly trained, skilled, experienced, and motivated, eager to make my mark, - and unable to get traction or attention. Up and down the hall - how do I get an Hp2100 manual? I already tried there, got any other suggestions? Is there a system overview? Not that you know of - well how do you find the software parts? Is there a description of software parts - no? Asking questions up and down the hallway - hours on end. Not wishing to wear out my welcome - not appear to be completely uninformed.
I figured Measurex wanted value for money - and I *really* wanted to show and give that value - but Mx seemed unwilling to help me provide that value.
- I find the job I was hired to do was not funded! would never be funded!
- Find another guy hired to do the same non-existent task
- - He quit! I had a family and decided to stick it out.
- My office mate has been out of town since before I was hired
- One day this *big* *black* smiling guy fills "my" door.
- I ask if I can be helpful. He says "I'm Lumon Morrow, I'm back". I had no previous clue.
- By *big* I mean there was a story that he had tried out with the Oakland Warriors -
- - and was good enough to last for 3 days.
- My office mate Lumon could patch Hp 2100 code in octal - from memory! He played state championship level bridge.
- He liked me as partner in noon-time bridge.
- - I played once with him locally at night - got 7/16th of a master's point - never again, those folks are not nice -
- I wasn't good, but was predictable, and bid to have him play most of the hands ;-))
- If he was likely to play the hand I overbid 1 trick, he was that good.
- In the post-mortems, those guys remembered who held what cards, 7 hands ago - yikes
In memoriam - (Sept 7, 2007) Ellen Hightower e-mailed the Measurex list "Sorry to tell you that Lumon Morrow has passed on." - Carol Gilbert summed it up well "So sorry to hear that. Lumon was everybody's friend and helper. What a lovely person."
- Lumon was indeed special - He grew up on a farm in Alabama, and I am rural Minnesota, we got on great. He had the best combination of intelligent, informed, friendly, honest and backbone I ever saw. He had been a gunner on B-29's in the Air Force (Korea) and later worked on Air Force satellite communications. I had worked on anti-aircraft rockets and telemetry so we had lots in common. And he had some surprises.
- Lumon liked George Wallace, (then governor of Georgia) not usually regarded a friend of blacks. Lumon said that George was honest, and played his (white separatist) roll faithfully. What George said could be depended on - you might not agree with him, but you could do government business with him.
Terry Pitzer wrote to the Yahoo list
- I have had the chance to work with Lumon many times, and I will always remembered he never left a site that the Tech was unsure as to what he had done. He always took what ever time necessary to explain the problem and the resolution, most important he made sure you understood. He was a caring person, a soft spoken man and as many of you have said "Always had a Smile".
God Bless You Lumon.- Terry Pitzer
Maya Morrow wrote to the Yahoo list
- ... a link to a slideshow and also the funeral program/obituary for Lumon Morrow, Jr.
- http://www.realrooster.com/lmj/
Lumon Morrow is (was) my dad. He lived a very full life, and was able to see his own children become adults and have children and families of their own. He doted on his grandchildren--they were the light of his life. He will be missed by us all.
- Tales from Valliant, OK - which I as a new hire luckily missed :-))
- Town too small for a motel?. Oklahoma was dry? Nearest town with a motel and bar was how far away??
- Nearest pulp wood for paper hundreds of miles away - government "pork barrel" money?
- 1st 4 scanner system, in the middle of nowhere!
- One scanner (with gauges of course) on top of steam dryer section! Yeah, shoot samples up there!! In the summer!!!
- One guy quit rather than go back.
- Mx folks had much trouble convincing customer that the fan valve must be messed up!!
- Finally, the customer cut the (14 inch pipe?) fan pump valve open and there was a 36 inch pipe wrench lodged in it!!
- The Management Experience
- OK - So some folks are queasy about the name "1 Imperial Way", Cupertino
- - OK, what does it take to change the name to 1 Results Way?
- And the end-of-quarter all hands meetings
- and the quarter that the only profit came from Dave selling Industrial Nucleonics short?
- And moving incorporation from California to Delaware?
- AH - Yes - the *GREAT* Christmas Dinner Parties at some nice hotel
- and Dave's loud red and yellow checkered "Christmas Party" pants :-))
- The Sales/Marketing Experience
- Need a boost in sales to make the year look good?
- OK - promise a coming price increase! That motivates the customers to "do it now" ;-))
- Ed Vopat organized/supervised TAPPI shows
- In New York he carried a wad of $100 bills to pay off the various "authorities"
- so that trucks could be unloaded and systems set up on time.
- The show in Chicago (1980?) where Suzanne Sommers (a cool soft bright looker) was our "booth bunny"
- She flew from San Francisco with us, and her agent/chaperone.
- In a few hours she had perfected her role, by far the best "booth bunny" at the show.
- She later had several TV shows where she played a "typical" air-head blond - what a waste!
- The Manufacturing/QA Experience
- Remember those all night, all weekend end-of-quarter marathons to
- get as much out the door as possible to make the quarter look good?
- And how empty the factory was for a week or so afterward??
- Yeah - few machines and no people - comp time :-))
- Life was never booring - not sure this is the way to do it though -
- And We Have Gauges! and Calibration and ...
- The caliper gauge had artificial sapphire (hard) contacting surfaces,
- but if you lowered the gauge off sheet and came on sheet,
- the 25 miles-per-hour paper edge of sheet cut through the bellows and the gauge went flying.
- Hey - Gunnar Wennerberg, you OK? (Spelling corrected, memorial to be July 12, 2008)
- A techwriter, Bill Hauser, was contracted to document the basis weight calibration procedure -
- Bill spent a frustrating 6 months trying to resolve differences between:
- Sensor engineering, floor calibration, field calibration - failed and was not renewed.
- And the intelligent color gauge (with its own microprocessor to program)
- And of course the radioactive Basis Weight gauges. Floor folks and many engineers wore finger ring and badge type dosimeters to detect if you had been overly exposed while wearing it. And the radiation safety classes - and stories of basis weight radiation shutters getting stuck open and worrying people.
- And Shipping
- And Measurex folks getting caught sticking a few bottles of California wine
- into a Canadian shipment - all heck to pay when Canadian customs discovered 'em!
- and forgetting to remove the computer card from the Hp chassis -
- The Japanese police raided the Mx Tokyo office for illegally importing a computer (the card),
- and hauled the Tokyo Mx manager (Wilkinson?) off to jail
- It was expedient to fire the Tokyo manager and get on with business.
- And Keeping 'em Working, and the Customer Satisfied
- Many Field Engineers were ex-submariners, needed to be serious and resourceful!
from Don Pruitt to [ex_mx] Jan 28, 2007
I too remember Don Cossi. System 202 at Greenwood Mills in Orangeburg, SC was also my first assignment as an AE with Measurex. Don was a strong Christian individual and he had the temperament to handle a feisty old Finishing Supt. by the name of R. J. Reynolds. The plant manager was Charles Gardner. During those first few weeks in the Fall of 1974, Don and I labored long and hard to get that system up and running. At that time the Textile Exposition Show was in Greenville, SC and we had a lot of visitors to view those old MX 1000 with the old Western Union Teletypes. You know, us two rookies seemed to have pulled it off enough for Charles and R.J. seemed to be pleased. I just remember how calm and collected Don was during all of those times. He was certainly an inspiration to me as I believe he was to others that he came in contact with. I wish his family solace during this time of grief. I thank God for letting me spend a brief time working and talking with such a truly Christian individual. Don Pruitt
- And Engineering - ya kin tell where I worked
- Measurex knew how to make money :-) Have good enough software to sell it many times on its own specialized hardware.
- My previous employer, Control Data Corp, Special Systems, could only figure how to sell expensive software only once - not a winning game!
- And it was in an old field (paper making process control) with new technology (use inexpensive digital mini-computers) and interesting business plan.
- Business plan included "Results Guarantee" - install our equipment and software and use it for a while - if you don't like it, we will remove it at no cost.
- The gimmick was that customers quickly became dependent on our system - like forgetting how to make paper the old fashioned way - and we indeed helped them make better paper faster :-))
- And the field people had to be good to make sure the customer was indeed getting RESULTS - and document the RESULTS! - and SELL!
- And we had a good thing going for us - the union paper makers in the mills were paid by the ton of on-specification paper they produced!!. Better paper, more paper - was money in their pockets!! *AND* our equipment did not displace anyone - it still took about 8 people to run one of those monster machines. Apparently the paper makers (the union folks who operated the machines) influenced the other mill workers to let our (non-union) people do what they had to do with little interference or union steward bitching. Adding our automation was relatively painless :-))
- It was many years before someone wanted Measurex equipment removed. Customer wouldn't/couldn't pay, Measurex wouldn't remove its equipment - fearing negative publicity? - Customer finally cut our equipment out - but by then Measurex had a good reputation and the publicity hit was not serious :-|
- The "Gemini" experience
- - so yur outa address space, just bolt on another computer - yeah - tell me another one
- One day I'm on the system integration floor doing something and
- Big Dave Bossen comes by and asks "Hi Ed, how are things going"?
- I nearly swallow my teeth! I had met him the first day - and this is 6 months later -
- How the *&%$%^ did he remember my name???
- Is this a good thing????
- Fun with cigarette machines
- and the low cost Lockheed Sue computer - Dave Matlock, where are you?
- Getting into bed with INTEL and the 8086
- I plead (4 page letter to Big Dave) for the bigger address space of the Motorola 68000, available at the same time.
- Big Dave, Bit Seto, and ??? may have been reasonably correct - Motorola was very late with a floating point chip.
- There were also stories:
- Bob Noyce (INTEL) gave Big Dave a special deal on the 8086s, then sold us the required 4 phase clock chips at list price :-|
- Noyce and Big Dave belonged to Rotary together - a level of trust? or screw me and I know where you are?
- Polly Noyce came to work at Mx at about the same time - nice reasonably efficient young lady
- She and her house mates gave parties at their rundown "rustic" rental house high on SkyLine drive, my first hot tub experience :-))
- The 8086 had a 1 megabyte address space :-((, Implementation selected is 500K base page
- and about eight 500K pages to be memory mapped into the other 500K space as commanded by software
- - and may God have mercy on your soul!
- The Vision system and the early daze of INTEL's Ethernet chip
- The $%^&* INTEL Ethernet chip won't even go 700K bits/second)
- and pages of exceptions to its published specs.
- Measurex was author to most of those exceptions!
- The Mx Ethernet project engineer gets a heart attack -
- He doesn't come back - he died?
- Special projects
- A label making system and printer for Three Rivers, Quebec, Don Robinson in charge
- The French speaking workers friendly when we English only speakers
- are introduced as being from *CALIFORNIA*.
- A mini-tape replacement for the floppy disk,
- Tom King - *please* kill this dead end project - only one manager came to the final demo - he wanted to hire me.
- I hear that it takes all night to do a Vision Data Base -
- If you did *EVERYTHING* right -
- If not, you have all next day to try to figure out the trouble,
- Then you can re-try it again tonight :-((
- In modern speak, the implementation did not scale well.
- My office mate and supervisor at the time was Jim Livingston.
- Jim had an advanced degree in Psychology, but had gotten hooked on the statistical aspect, and hence into programming. Not only was he programming full time at Measurex, he was a featured columnist in some Unix/C publication, and he was supplementing his income doing contract software for others. He unfortunately did some work for Jack Tramiel, boss of Commodore. Jack was getting the name "Jack - so sue me - Tramiel". He usually wouldn't pay unless sued. Painful lesson in various business practices. I never heard of Measurex screwing anyone.
- And the off-site Skunk Works for a couple of years to do a low cost Plastic Extrusion System - Bill Sanzo in charge
- Using the Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) LSI-11 computer
- And the trade show where it was announced and Accuray guessed so wrong!!!
- and was passing out "newspapers" with their so wrong guess! ;-))
- Hey Ed Vopat - wasn't that a kick??
- The system was a technical success - but marketing had ?guessed? that there were 10,000 plastic extruders
- Well - we soon found there weren't! Marketing was off by a factor of 11? - like 900 plastic extruders world wide?
- We sold well to the customers that did exist.
- The Vision System is now the only active development project -
- Life is too short!
- I won't join Vision, and out the door *Fired* in 1989 :-)
- Measurex was very humane - make work projects for a few months - time to change my stubborn mind?
- I got fired before noon - Mx let me stay all afternoon, saying good bye to friends - nice touch :-))
- Olga Tanton (database integration) cried a little. I never had anyone cry for me before!
- (I had always tried to be helpful to the folks who put the data bases together that ran the machines.
- Constant software upgrades and changes made their life "interesting".)
- Exit package was something like continuing pay for 2 weeks for every year employed. (Lost 1000 hrs of sick time.)
- I had forgotten how hard you have to run to get a job -
- It ain't just the politicians :-(
- But I catch a job I like at Landis&Gyr, and get paid double for a while :-)))
- National Instrument Inc. software later replaced home grown software for gauging and presentation
- Later, "Measurex Open" and other things I never heard of -
- And Finance
- With the real looker brainless blond who called her mother in New Jersey for two hours every morning,
- when a real bargain WATTs line was $18/hour.
- And Personnel (*Not* "Human Resources" ala Dilbert)
- Measurex figured that companies rose and fell too fast in Silicon Valley and did not pretend to have a company retirement plan. Instead, Measurex provided generous matching funds into individual "401K" type plans. Seems very foresighted now that former employees of many major companies are getting abandoned.
- Dodie Bossen ran it - her own way - and I generally approved (rare for me)
- Except the day she posted reserved parking signs for the "wheels".
Big Dave figured that if you didn't arrive at work early you didn't deserve a close parking slot!- (His big red Mercedes was usually close in - but sometimes way out in the "boonies".)
The next day the reserved signs were removed! And anyone arriving early could park anywhere as usual. - I think there was eventually "customer parking".- And a sauna (it was hardly ever used and later disappeared).
- A number of us were offended when the ping pong table was removed from the System Integration area and Mx!
- That reminds me - Both hardware and software engineering were close to the System Integration area, and if there appeared to be a problem - we were right there!! No committee meeting, no international memos, no delays - FIX IT NOW! :-)))
- There was considerable flexibility. Gerta Thiem (name correction by Tom Wilson), the cafeteria supervisor and cook, had been a young woman in Germany at the end of World War II. She *HATED* Soviets. (I guess Soviet soldiers were especially hard on German women.) She would not cook if there were Soviet buyers in the building likely to eat her food. On those days, outside vendors were hired to provide food for the company cafeteria.
Yeah - you heard me right - right in the middle of the Cold War, the Soviets bought our machines. There were stories of horrible Soviet concrete shedding dust all over and plugging our filters. Stories of the system that ?slid? off a Soviet loading dock and had to be returned to Cupertino for rework.
One of our systems went to a new Soviet truck factory. The French had prime contract on that truck and tire factory and had proposed our equipment for tire tread control :-| We delivered the system at the time requested, but the factory completion was delayed and delayed - ?Soviet government bungling? - A few years later we got word that the Soviets were ready to use the system - would Mx come over and commission it. By then that version of software had been out of production for at least a year - and people largely forgotten all that old stuff (or at least said they did). Finally Tony Fredrickson (a software manager) went over and got the system going - and brought back wild tales of vodka drinking - who wants to be sober when you don't have to be? - and the high cost of vodka to the low paid Soviets - a not so hidden tax?.
- One day I was "Xeroxing" a many page non-company document when Jack Gurten (personnel security person) walked by. I was feeling guilty about using company resources so I told him that this was not for the company, and that I wanted to pay for usage. He said "I don't want to hear!" and walked away.
- Lab equipment was available for loan, and parts could be taken, for projects that enhanced your work skills. I frequently borrowed expensive oscilloscopes to play with on the week ends - even designed, made, debugged a 16 K dynamic RAM controller for the family Commodore PET computer. :-)) (I purchased the RAM chips.) I was heavily involved with the switch from Fabritek core memory to (I forget the company) chip dynamic RAM memory. Among other things - there was concern that the plastic packages of the memory chips would allow environmental steam in and ruin the memory chips - Mx had an environmental chamber in Campbell? and we used it for several weeks cycling temperature and humidity wildly. Everything OK :-))
- There was considerable flexibility in promotions and demotions also. Folks who were promoted to supervisors/managers could return to "the ranks" if they didn't do well - with little stigma. OK - it didn't work out - no problem. I thought that very enlightened - especially as I didn't view myself as management material - much preferring hands on experience.
Several people made the cycle several times, manager - burnout, individual contributor, manager ...
- The founding owners (majority stock holders) Dave and Dodie Bossen were right there - taking care of business.
- Like late one afternoon in say 1974, I was doing something near the loading dock. Dave Bossen came by and noticed a stack of core memory cards from Fabritek about 2 feet tall - looking ready to fall over and break. (At the time, the Hp 2100 was using memory cards that had a single plane of cores a little like this. These core memory cards were *expensive* - maybe more than the price of the bare computer - and reasonably fragile - lots of little cores and wires. Big Dave's mouth tightened and he hustled off. A short time later I noticed the cards were removed, I presume to a safer situation!!
Ya know, I really liked that !! - Concerned management present and active -
- Talking about the loading dock - Incoming/Receiving - what ever, seems to be a problem in many/most companies. Not that they have as simple and easy a life as you might think - but.
- Being close to the hardware, I got to order some special items, maybe every 6 months, and asked for samples quite a bit.
- After maybe 10 days if I received nothing, I would call the vendor to see what was up. All too often the vendor would say - "... and it should have arrived a few days ago." So I would call "Receiving" and as if there was anything for me.
- About half the time they would say "Yes, we have been waiting for you to pick it up." I would say - "I didn't know it arrived - Did you call me?"
- The other half of the times, they would say "No", so I would ask if I could come down and look. With reluctance they would say "Yes", and there it was, not all that hard to find. :-((
Years later, after I was gone -
Process control pioneers pass torch as new era begins in industry - 1994 interview with Dave Bossen. local copy. Measurex sold to Honeywell - Year 1997 - all cash about $600 million. A few years later, Honeywell was bought by Allied Signal, which renamed its self to "Honeywell". Allied Signal/Honeywell was strictly bean counters squeezing cash cow old Measurex. see below
Epilog
Destruction of Measurex, From Dirk DeMol - December 2005
The "destruction" of Measurex was because of many factors. Honeywell just being one of them. Some of the initial strikes against Measurex within Honeywell were caused by some executives stacking the books in their favor when they retired. That caused the year after their retirement to be a disaster which caused Honeywell to come in heavy handed.
Most of the decline in engineering was caused by a changing market place. Instead of people designing boards, compilers and control design software, we just bought PCs and off-the-shelf software. We just could not charge $5000 for a black & white daisy wheel printer anymore. Or $25000 for a "DataTranslator" if much better functionality could be bought with a $100 Ethernet card in a PC.
Dirk De Mol
National InstrumentsDodie, (spelling corrected by Alison (Bossen) Tahl ) From Chere Nijim - January 2006
Thanks you for enlightening us about the stories of MX and the beautiful memories you shared with us. Mr. B is definitely looking well. I reported to DSB [Dodie] and I enjoyed working with her and for her. She was a delightful and colorful person. The simple pleasures we share the secret things we share and the secret delights we shared in one with the other. A gift indeed, was she. She definitely know people and could read you like a book, and very charming as well.
I appreciate you saying such nice things about her. I even went to her memorial. She did a lot of good in her life, from "Woman of the Year" in Silicon Valley to V.P. of Corporate Communications.
Sincerely,
c.n. If you have comments or would like to do a MEASUREX page/site, Send e-mail to Ed Thelen
----- Original Message ----- From: Jeanne Whitmer To: ex_mx@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:37 PM > > Hello fellow Ex-MXers! Here is a message from Paul Lannus, who is > > looking for some assistance on a project he's working on. He was > > referred to the site, and so I'm forwarding to you his message. I > > hope some of you can help him: > > ------ > Greetings! > I am working on a project that concerns the > construction of the One Results Way campus - work in > the 1970s to be specific. > A bunch of former MX officers suggested I check with > you alums. > We would like to chat with anyone that worked in > Operations/Building maintenance or has any > recollection of the original construction and > expansion projects that went on at the Measurex > Cupertino campus. > I can be reached by email at plannus@yahoo.com or > telephone at 415.267.4058. > Thanks, > Paul LannusCoulda Shoulda Woulda - response from Ed ThelenI had an 1st floor office overlooking the Mx construction of the building that housed that deep (2.5 story) parking lot. Down and down, round and round - like they almost needed an elevator.
What turned out to be the most eastward building on the "campus". Being a techie, I was fascinated by the digging, re-enforcing, concrete pouring, ... of that building.
I took lots of pictures of all phases visible from the outside - but everybody else was properly bored with them and I pitched them out during my move to Fremont from Cupertino about 10 years ago :-((
Watching digging that hole was FUN. I suppose the techniques were standard, but getting the dirt and later the machinery out was fascinating to watch.
What may not be obvious,
- there were serious attempts to stabilize those large vertical underground walls.
Large boring machines, like those used to drill telephone pole holes were used to drill *long* (what appeared to be 40'?) diagonal holes (maybe 30 degrees down from horizontal) which then had re-bar and concrete inserted.I don't think, not sure, that they used tensioning techniques like in prestressed concrete slabs. And far down on the bottom floor and support columns had lots and lots of re-bar - like the re-bar salesman made a mint.
I watched and photographed every day - sorry Big Dave, I also did a little productive work ;-))
One day in the big hole, there were the usual supervising and whatever people in their yellow jump suits (never seemed to get muddy) and yellow hard hats. Suddenly one of the people moved in a way that only a woman (or impersonator) moves. I got all excited and called people in - "Look - one of those people down there is a woman!!" The person moved again - indeed - all agreed that was a woman. I guess they had a lady engineer or inspector. Later she came up and took off her hard hat, yup - acts and looks like a woman - on a construction site no less I felt sorry for Mx - putting all that money into a hole in the ground. We all had teased the administration to build enough parking - - but I think they over did it :-(( Sometimes one should be careful what one asks for, one might get it :-(( The upper structure was standard tip up slab construction.
Is this the kind of whakky stuff you are looking for??
I have a Mx oriented web page at http://www.ed-thelen.org/Measurex.html
--Ed Thelen
Turns out "they" want info on dates, contractors, plans, permits, ...
This is favorite tale of mine. (Ed Thelen) In the early 1980s, the Saddle Rack was in downtown San Jose. It was a very large bar/dance hall/place to hear canned and live country western music. It also had a prominent mechanical bull the folks tried to ride, with controls from gentle to Moon Shooter.
Soon we at Measurex heard that there was "mud wrestling" going on there Saturday nights.
The general plan was that two young ladies, who were quite athletic, would wrestle guys from the audience in a ring covered several inched deep with mud. We had heard from magazines that this was the latest fad, and here it was in San Jose. OK? Soon we heard that teams of folks would pool their money so that their designated person could wrestle the young ladies. That there would be an auction preceding the event, and the winning group would have their person wrestle the young ladies.
And the bearer of the news thought that we of engineering software should pool our money and have Tai Chen, a software engineering manager, be our hero. Tai Chen was all of 5'5" tall, quite popular, a practical go-get-er, but no one would consider him a threat physically. His wrestling name would be "Too Tall Chen" ;-)) What the heck - we oughta have some fun!!
Somehow a pool of $120 dollars was collected and that Saturday night a delegation of mostly Measurex software engineering showed up at the SaddleRack to participate in the excitement. There was a crowd maybe 150, a wrestling ring with maybe 3 inches of mud in it, some means of keeping the mud mostly in the ring, and a master of ceremonies. The master of ceremonies started out explaining that this was not ordinary mud from some back yard, but sterilized filtered clay to remove sand, rocks, and other possibly harmful material. Among other things, the mud would reduce the impacts of falls.
The two young ladies, in bathing suits and caps, maybe 115 pounds each, were introduced and gave a maybe 30 second example of their wrestling prowess. They flipped each other about, pinned each other, and it was obvious that they were athletic, agile, and used to the mud ring.
The master of ceremonies then announced the terms of the wrestling, the auction, and the constraints on the challenging wrestlers. The heroes would wear heavy boxing gloves, presumably to restrict pinching, hair pulling, scratching and gouging. Also, the hero would have his feet tied together to prevent kicking.
Then the auction started, our $120 pool was quickly exceeded and a group offering say $250 won. Their hero appeared, and he was a maybe 200 pound hairy muscular specimen - with the humor of a brown rock. The wrestling started, and it was quickly obvious that the two young ladies could do nothing with that 200 pound hairy chimpanzee of a guy. If they tried to pin him - with one arm he could flip a girl off, get up, and chase them around the ring again.
It was scary. I was impressed with how little a 115 pound woman could do against a 200 pound guy. If he can keep his hips rotated a little to protect his gonads - she has no apparent chance. Anyway - the event was over - we (or at least me) went home somber.
Well, lets try again - but Tai Chen decided he did not want to be our hero again. Who would volunteer? The search was on - Mike Powell was persuaded to be our hero. Lets introduce Mike Powell, Mike is your basic nice guy, a kind of Dilbert. No bad jokes, quite serious, hard worker, handles practical mathematical questions with ease, stable temper, wife and maybe three kids, one adopted?, goes to church, teaches Sunday School, not known to drink, ... maybe 5'11", 200 pounds, works at building/improving his house in the mountain/woods near Cupertino. What an unlikely hero for mud wrestling at the rowdy SaddleRack bar.
A much larger bidding pool of maybe $300 dollars was collected, and down to the SaddleRack we went. This Saturday night the bidding was not so vigorous, and we got our hero, Mike Powell, into the ring for something like $180.
The boxing gloves, leg restraints and swimming cap were placed on Mike - and the action started. Mike and the girls were wonderful. Mike had a sense of humor we had never seen. He and the girls were rolling around in the mud - It was quickly obvious that Mike could take care of himself, but restrained himself from pushing hard and soon we were enjoy the humor of the participants.
Now, I cannot tell you how folks wrestling in the mud can cause an audience to start to smile and relax. But we did. Maybe the contrast with the previous Saturday's gorilla made us feel better about people and guys and gals - who knows - but they had fun, and we had fun. Unbelievable - fun mud wrestling - you must be kidding !! But I'm not. The event was over too soon, and the participants were wiping their faces, shaking gloves and laughing.
Mike - Thanks much for the memory.
The world indeed can be a fun place. Carol Gilbert offers (March 13, 2006)
Software Training, Software Maintenance/Configuration:
Software Training: The first person to try to pull thoughts and documentation together to help newcomers to MX Engineering was Diana Tingley. When she left for HP, Matt Guerrieri gave me a shot at it since I had been integrating systems for a year and had a teaching credential. Ultimately I was able to hire Susan (Cox) Hernandez, Jan Mitchell, and Joan Hebert. We had a great time indoctrinating all the new people into the paper biz, plastics, VISION, HP systems, DEC systems, process control, and whatever else we were called upon. Thank you Burt Kendall for the wonderful overviews you helped out with. You were the only one who had a handle on the "big picture." We also gathered the resources that were present and eventually ran a library with a collection focusing on programming languages, process control, other technical disciplines and my full set of Dilbert books thrown in. Dave Bossen once called it "The World's Smallest Library." Yes, but we could always find what people wanted from the books or the archives of magazine donations. It wasn't a pretty site after the Loma Prieta earthquake!
Software Maintenance/Configuration:
When Rowena Koch left, Randy Kalmeta felt I could take on the SWM team too. My wonderful group consisted of John Charlton, Vicky Stewart, Haruko Vultee, Polly Noyce, Cyndy Hiatt, Linda Borg, Alice Huang, Mike Olensky, Cathleen McCann, Kathy Weill, Maureen Maris, Marge Bogen. Apologies to anyone I've missed. Little did I know how emotionally charged the words "release" and "update" were . Nor were letters and numerals straightforward. We created a whole new alphabet. To save my sanity I wrote two editions of "In Search of Euphemisms," the first in 1983 and the second in 1988. If we weren't releasing new software, were we disgorging it? liberating it? unfettering it?
Characters of note:
Steve Cabot, our homeless employee, who lived in his truck in the parking lot, The Duke of Dork who stuck to you like flypaper, Holly who had a special relationship with the Xerox machine, Jerry McCann and Mike Powell--to know them was to love them, Claudia Mc Queen whose silhouette made strong men crumble, Tom King, who besides being the best VP, made April Fool's Day special, Pat Van Munn who lived by the credo, "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission." The Grade Program:
I started at MX when it had to be run from multiple boxes of punch cards. God help you if you dropped them! The SYSGEN program:
Why did I think that every time I submitted it was the final one?! Carol Gilbert
carol.gilbert@comcast.net
www.carol.gilbert.nameTom Wilson offers (March 19, 2006)
Engineering Lab
It's kind of funny to see some of the names from so long ago. I read the bio of Measurex. I worked there from Jan. 73 until about May of 80 and previously worked for one of the vendors who produced sub assemblies for MX, 7 Associates the company owned by Dave Meader's Dad, Dave Sr.
I started out in manufacturing and worked for Fred Moulton, then made a series of jumps. The tobacco system prototypes were all built by me and Sandi Swain (who can forget her voice) under the direction of Ron Smithson. I worked in the engineering lab with Pete Wellington and built the first X-ray based ash sensor for system 307 (Finch Pruyn Paper) in Glens Falls NY.
I finished up in the system configuration department working for Ken Meigs. I was part of the "flying" group which included Ken, Bill Davis, Bill Rink Bob Micelli and a wannabe named Connor Vlacancic (sp). I owned the green Mooney, and the white XK-E Jaguar that often sat next to Bossen's Mercedes 450/
I currently live in Boise where I inspect aviation assets for the Department of the Interior, and still fly.
One correction in the bio, the cafeteria manager was named Gerta Thiem. She personally witnessed the destruction of Dresden during the war, and later went to the former East Germany in the later 70's. She had a drop dead gorgeous daughter who I once took flying.
Tom Wilson employee 636. ...how would I know....Why should I care..?
Sean Maxwell offers (March 31, 2006)
"a refreshing company to work for" - the correct word at last :-))
Hi, I was bored and decided to look up Measurex, and was amazed to find your site.
I was an employee from 1978 to 1986 based in the UK.
I was taken on as Field Engineer for the "new" Energy Systems having had Power utility experience.
I worked my way up to Applications Engineer having changed disciplines from Energy to Paper to Plastics and Metals.
They were some of the best years of my life. I found it a refreshing company to work for, and particularly enjoyed my training / visits to Cupertino, Waterford and Cork.
I now live in Richmond, Virginia.
Power to you!
Sean Maxwell
Results Guarentee :-)) (October 13, 2006)
from Scott Mayer from [ex_mx]
Sometimes the results guarantee was an offer of a refund of the price of the system, less the portion paid for initial services [usually 205].
If the customer was not satisfied for ANY reason, they could return the system for a full refund of the system price less the initial services.
The evaluation was to be performed by the customer in any manner they chose.
If they weren’t satisfied, we were allowed the opportunity to improve the performance or situation to their liking.
We didn’t get many back.
Best regards,
Scott Mayer
from Jeff Mitchell from [ex_mx]
What we used to do on the DMC side (metals, mostly zinc coatings) was to offer a guarantee for a certain extra price. We would guarantee, for example, a 50% improvement in long term variation. If we did not meet that, we would refund a prorated portion of the purchase price, for example 10% return at only 40% improvement, 20% return on only 30% improvement, etc. On the other hand, part of the agreement was for the customer to give us a 10% premium if there was a 60% improvement, 20% on a 70% improvement, and so on.
No one EVER took us up on the offer! But just the confidence we showed gained us a 90% market share (North America) in metal coatings during our heyday.
Jeff Mitchell
from Mike from [ex_mx]
From my experience in the UK it was always difficult to get the customer to come up with reliable QC results. Generally, you had to help them out first with training on how to establish good practices in quality checking of their own product!
I lost count of the times that I went to a site to follow up on an installed system only to find that the only quality check was a battered old hand micrometer with a bent pointer that (when it wasn't being used to measure) was being used under the leg of the qc bench to stop it wobbling.
... Best regards
Mike Howard
Stories from Harold Welch
- Mathew St. shipping
- Control Tuning
- The Slide Rule Story and small stories
- Scanners and High Tea
View from the field, Rob Brauns (Dec 15, 2007)
Hi Ed, Interesting site you have. Finding this site is pretty amazing because I remember my days at Measurex well. I was hired in 1983 as a Field Tech in Canada. I was sent to Iroquois Falls, which is about as far north as you can go and still be connected to civilization by road. Meausurex sold the mill at Iroquois Falls a DEC based system with the auto calibration feature. The DEC unit didn't have enough memory for this software and the instrumentation guy at the mill knew it. I finally managed to fudge a scan showing that the software was in fact installed. I remember Iroquois Falls for another reason well because I got called in one Sunday morning because one of the rolls of the stack has broken our scanner. The "stack" is the final stack of rolls maybe 8 of them in a vertical frame before the paper goes on the reel. The top roll had a bad bearing which knocked the second roll down into the pit. Our scanner was bent and had to be replaced. The paper mill insisted that I remove the radioactive part of the head and place it in an unused room. I wanted to remove the whole scanner head but the mill insisted that I remove only the metal can holding the beta radiation source. This was a Sunday so I had no choice. Boy was the mill floor ever deserted as I walked to the unused room with this little metallic can in my hand. By Monday Atomic Energy Canada and even Cupertino where getting involved and they all insisted that nothing be moved or removed. By then of course it was too late. It took my boss 3 days to get to Iroquois Falls and then he finally believed me when he saw the scanner all bent. Before that nobody really believed me when I told them what had happened but there it was. Probably the only damaged scanner in all of Measurex.
I later moved south to St. Catharines, Ontatrio and worked for several mills. The mill in Thorold made recycled cardboard and had an HP something that the guys in Cupertino stole from a museum. While the modern mills had a pizza sized floppy disk to load the programs, this Measurex unit had a glorified 8 track reader that required one to hand type 28 lines of code to be able to read the tape. It never worked the first time but we'd clean the tape heads with alcohol and then cross our fingers that it loaded. If it crashed, we'd have to reload and retype those 28 lines of binary code. It sometimes took hours to get the system running again. I wanted to make a copy of the one tape that still worked but nobody had any documentation so we prayed that the system never broke.
The other mill I remember was the Kimberley Clark tissue mill with one of Measurex's least thoughtful inventions. The C scanner. This C frame scanner is a testament to what happens when electronics people design something mechanical. The scanner rode on the same 8 wheels that the I-beam sensors rode on but the C frame had this gigantic thing made from ¼" plate steel shaped like the letter C. The C frame probably weighed 2 tons. Well, those 8 wheels were constantly wearing down. To make matters worse tissue dust would come up and get flattened under the wheels making the heads shake more than an elvis doll so we'd have to change the wheels a lot. We finally resorted to changing the wheels at every shutdown but after a while Management complained that we were spending too much on wheels. The work around was to order wheels for other mills (there were about 4 mills within a 6 mile radius) so we wouldn't get called in at 3:00 am for bad wheels. The other thing I remember is that the scanner would not see the magnetic reed switch and over travel. The closed end of the C would break the paper so we'd be called in for that. At shutdowns everything appeared normal so it took us techs forever to figure out what was wrong and it was me that found the problem. While running, the moist tissue dust would short out the magnetic reed switch signal making the scanner think that it had traveled all the way to the one side when it fact it would only travel a bit. Then the scanner would go into some kind of calibration mode and scan until it found the limit switch which would break the paper. We finally solved this issue by adding a second magnet to the scanner arm and using silicon on the terminals whenever the reed switch was replaced. That C scanner was by far the most repair intensive piece of equipment that Measurex ever made.
I also had the distinction of getting called in to repair a system that had failed because the mains had shorted. At the back of the Measurex unit where 3 long vertical power strips that feed the various pieces of equipment. The wires had rubbed along these strips wearing through the insulation and causing a massive short with sparks. I remember the mill guys clapping when I was trying to figure out what went wrong and then there were massive sparks flying out of the Measurex unit. They thought it was me that caused the problem. I bowed gracefully and called my boss who was still sleeping. Then the big boss Dennis reminded me that I seemed to have my share of problems with Measurex. After that I left for Europe.
I did like the TR job because I had lots of free time to take off during the day but that pager was a pain. I also remember my 6 weeks in California. Gee sunny weather, lots of pretty girls and great food. The mid 80s were interesting times for me.
Oh, you can email me at rbrauns@arcor.de if you have any further questions.
Kind Regards, Rob
MX product pictures from Tom Steele ( steeletom at shaw dot ca )
The "basetrimmed" note means I (Ed Thelen) trimmed off the base to give better detail to the display
- Harold Welch says "The 1000 ca 1972 system is actually a 1500 system. Note the two color panels. It was the first system to have a CRT instead of the storage scopes. It was invented between the TAPPI and CPPA shows one year."
- Harold Welch says "The 2000 ca 1974 system was installed in Vancouver Washington. This was done secretly months before the 2000 was announced."
Gunnar Wennerberg - RIP
One of my favorite people, and Measurex had a high percentage of good people, was a Swedish gentleman named Gunnar Wennerberg - who died July 1, 2008 - Gunnar worked in sensors, and lived about a block from me in Cupertino. I tended to visit with him at work rather than home - I guess our kids were very different ages.
Gunner would tell of working with Bill Lear
(Info from resume)
M.S. Equivalent, Electrical Engineering, 1942, Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm ... 1947-52 LEAR, INC ... autopilot and general servomechanism development ... ... 1954-59 LEAR, INC, (now Lear-Siegler). ... avionic devices... transistorized servo amplifiers .. airborne navigation ... 1959- Lockheed Missiles ... Manager ... fuel cells .. digital telemetry ...
In WW II Bill Lear proposed and apparently manufactured a good enough control for the tricky problem of controlling the turbo superchargers on high altitude bombers in WW II. Apparently he made enough money to later develop the small business jet called the Learjet 23. Lear had no aircraft design or manufacturing education nor experience, but selected inventive skilled people, which led to the development of a very successful aircraft - and Gunnar was one of those - According to Gunner, Lear's next project was a steam car. A prototype was made - but it seemed to have the following unresolvable problems:
Apparently the last was the project killer - Bill figured auto drivers would not wait, and therefore would not buy!
- Mileage per gallon of fuel was poor compared to the then current gasoline engines
- Cooling the steam for the closed cycle of water/steam was a big problem. Even the outsides of the doors were used as part of the condenser - a safety hazard.
- Even though a "flash boiler" was used to try to speed getting steam when someone wanted to drive the car, it took almost a minute from "turning the key" to having enough steam pressure to drive down the street.
Then Gunnar worked for Lockheed, but the dynamics of mass hirings and lay offs did not agree with his organized soul.
In about 1970?, Gunnar joined Measurex as part of sensor development. The following are my recollections, corrected by John Dahlquist, Thanks much John :-))
It is my impression that Gunnar worked on many gauges but his specialty was the thickness (caliper) gauge. I understood he had several patents on it - If I remember that gauge was so good that some folks bought the gauge as a separate item and tried to use it with competitive equipment -
The software to use it was a combination of simple and complicated.
So, Software/Control had to be sure that the
- The thickness determination was relatively simple. Convert the frequency (difference due to the separation of the inductive lower and upper parts) to separation - a relatively straight forward formula
- - with minor correction due to the different compressions of different grades of the paper
- The control of when to close (make the gauge touch the paper) and open the gauge was more complicated -
- It was a contacting gauge, the two parts coming from the bottom head and the top head - You (the software) closed the gauge when the gauge was "On-Sheet" and opened just before going "Off-Sheet".
- If you closed the gauge before it came on sheet, the rapidly moving paper generally cut through the rubber bellows that helped the gauge flex with the rapidly moving paper -
- Worst case, either the top par or bottom part of the caliper head got sawed off by the rapidly moving paper and thrown some distance down the paper machine - maybe never to be seen again.
- Also worst case - Sawing off of the gauge could tear the sheet of paper - further irritating the situation :-((
- Going "off-sheet" with the gauge closed was not very cool either !!
- offset from the center line of the scanning head was correct - - the edges of the paper were REALLY where you thought they were - But the gauge was a winner, apparently the best in the industry :-))
Gunnar got many complements on it - John Dalquist e-mailed
He also was responsible for Mx using the Microwave gauge, on an OEM basis from a Swedish company. He also proposed the Z-sensor, which ended up being a joint invention of Gunnar (who proposed it as a correction to the way the scanner distance changed and thus affected the basis weight gauge), myself who took his idea and made it work, first installed in Australia) and John Goss, who was the Sensor Group boss. Enough said.
We sensor people thought the only real problem with the caliper gauge was that the S/W could not be relied on to know off-sheet vs on- sheet. This could hardly be a hardware design fault.
Getting Started
from Mark Humphreys November 14, 2008
I remember very few of the people there now---but I do remember two people very fondly---Carl Deck, the colorful retired Navy postman (and WWII/Korean War vet) with whom I worked in the mail room, and Doddy {Dodie?] Bossen, who was always kind to me during my short stint at the company. At age 21 I had just moved back to Northern California in early 1979 and, to make sure I had some income, had taken a job at a Jack in the Box restaurant in Saratoga while looking for a mail room position (which was where all of my experience was at the time). I had searched for weeks in the classifieds, going to interviews without any luck. I was staying at the time with some friends of my parents who lived in Cupertino, and every day on my way back to their house I passed by One Results Way. One afternoon after a particularly disappointing day of job hunting, something compelled me to pull into the Measurex parking lot and simply walk in the door, without any appointment, and ask for a job. It was one of those divine moments that never leaves me, no matter how old I get.
It turned out that just that day Doddy had agreed with Carl that the mailroom needed an extra hand, and she was preparing to place an ad for the position. I’ll never forget how amazed Doddy was that I walked in right at that moment, or how quickly we hit it off. I had a job right there on the spot, and started the next day.
I gave two-weeks’ notice to Jack in the Box, figuring I could grind it out working graveyard, then 8 hours at Measurex immediately thereafter, for a small amount of time. I learned differently very quickly. On my second day of work at Measurex, I arrived about 20 minutes early from my restaurant gig and figured I’d take a short nap in my car. I woke up three hours later, ran in to the mail room, where Carl (who had assumed that after my first day I had just walked out) gave me some good-natured razzing and Doddy never said a word about it. On one of my breaks that day I called the manager at Jack in the Box and told him I was done. I worked at Measurex until March of 1980, and I’ll never forget the warmth and family atmosphere that existed there at the time.
Thanks for the site and the opportunity to remember a very happy time.
Best,
Mark Humphreys
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Hardware/Software/Management integration Mar 2009
I was "talking" (e-mailing) a very experienced IBM manager (had managed the 1401 project in 1058) who expressed the idea
A Basis Weight document July 2009 - A tale from Ed Thelen
I had a techwriter friend, who got a contract with Measurex. The six month contract was to write the manual for calibrating a sensor which measured the weight of fiber in paper. The weight of fiber in an area of paper is called "Basis Weight", that is the weight you see on a ream of paper - like 20 lbs. Basis Weight and moisture are prime things to control in the paper forming/drying process. (The paper goes by the gauge at up to 30 miles/hour.) a) He talked with sensor engineering how to do it. He wrote that up to their satisfaction. b) He showed it to the people who actually took customer samples and provided initial calibration for systems being shipped. They said his document was all wrong. He got into some trouble trying to get sensor engineering and the calibration people to reach a consensus. c) He showed the confused consensus to the field people, They did not adjust factory calibrations that way at all - and gave him their inputs. d) By that time, the six months was up - - My friend's attempted document was not published. - He was not invited back. - There never was an approved document developed - - This was at Measurex, the world leader in paper process control for over 20 years -The Spirit Lives On - Sept 2009
from Matthew Morycinski
Just found your page about Measurex. I am a technician at Honeywell, formerly Measurex, QCS integration facility in North Vancouver, BC, Canada. Started in the fall 2007. Many techs and assemblers have been around much, much longer. They fondly remember the Measurex time, when the company splurged on parties and such. The company name may be different, but the spirit that drives the place seems to have survived. There is a lot of camaraderie that makes it such a nice place to go to every day! Nice to see that the history of Measurex is not being forgotten. Keep up the good work! Glad you enjoyed :-)) I [Ed Thelen] worked a number of places before - and one since - but Measurex was tops :-)) IBM only second ;-)) Hard to explain - we of course bitched about the imperfections of life - we sometimes wondered about where Mx got their comparitive salary info they quoted didn't seem to match the job offers we were getting - people did leave some felt Measurex was getting too big or the valley too crowded one software integration guy had a knack with people and selling realestate - left (1980?), was last heard of making big bucks selling commercial properties in Los Angeles But even folks that left thought very highly of Measurex -- "I would like to stay but ..." There are some stories yet to come, but Big Dave figures that people don't need to know - so - we will see - I think he would have made/is a great poker player - Ed Thelen